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The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of a fair use image as a replaceable image. Please do not modify it.

The result was to delete the image.

You will have to excuse my inexperience as this is my first attempt at creating a Wikipedia article - and I must say it's an extenuous task I hope I never have to go through again, too much work and too many rules and tiny paragraphs. I'm sure they serve the noblest possible purpose, but for a newcomer it's a very efficient mood killer. Rants aside, the case in point being the picture. It was taken by a friend of Paul's, who happens to be a friend of mine, and I'm helping him write the article on Wikipedia, which I already have a draft for in Wikipedia talk:Articles for creation/Paul Pesco. I still have to search every single contribution he's made and link references, that'll probably take me forever, not sure when to submit it for revision. Oh, and references! I still have to put inline references in there. Anyway, back to the picture. Is this not ok? Do I need some sort of consent in writing? What if next time we meet I take a picture with my cellphone, will that be ok? I could really use some help, because for every single detail I have to include in the article there are endless pages of rules upon rules upon rules. And I thought what I was doing was a good job so far, imagine that. Deny777 (talk) 16:04, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Non-free images are not allowed in article drafts, and non-free images of living people aren't allowed either. If the photographer is willing to license the image under some free licence, see WP:CONSENT. Photos taken by yourself are acceptable provided that you choose a free licence. As you are editing an article about a friend of a friend of yours, also see the guideline about conflicts of interest (WP:COI). --Stefan2 (talk) 16:09, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Dude, this is way too hard. I'm sure you guys have your reasons and I appreciate you taking the time to explain things to me, but I give up. I only wonder, Paul is a guy who appeared in more than a dozen songs almost every human being on this planet (the free part at least) have listened to and enjoyed (take a look at his collaborations in the draft), yet he still doesn't have a page of his own in wikipedia. Worse, his name is irrevogably linked to Madonna's "Virgin Tour" so if anyone decides to write a (IMHO) well-deserved article about him, there's that to deal with as well. So the question I ask myself is, if not me, then who? And you understood me wrong, I'm not a friend of a friend, I'm a friend of Paul himself and his wife, so there you go, I'm uneligible. Sure I can see the point of the conflict of interest rules, people have a habit of abusing their freedom, which leads to the creation of said rules. As I see it, the downside is, it ruins the experience to everyone else. In any case, please go ahead and delete away. Cheers, Deny777 (talk) 16:35, 7 November 2013 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it.
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