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Borders in grey are rubbish

Suggest taking the border between the Duchy of Estonia and the Duchy of Livonia from here and removing the rest of the borders in grey. Also the toponyms should follow the same format. Currently they are formatted as Estonian Name (German Name), for example Viljandi (Fellin). Following that format, it should be Saaremaa (Ösel), Pärnu (Pernau), and Ērģeme (Ermes). Please fix that. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 17:33, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

I'll change the naming scheme. The grey bordering doesn't really work, granted, but are we sure that the border in the map you suggest (which dates from at least 1621, possibly later) is accurate for this time period? The one in here is a fair representation of one in a book by Robert I. Frost (and matches its lack of detail). Grandiose (me, talk, contribs) 19:19, 16 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]

The Duchy of Estonia was created only in 1561, therefore the 1560 political situation is best described by File:Livonia in 1534 (Engilsh).PNG. --Jaan Pärn (talk) 08:03, 17 January 2011 (UTC)[reply]