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Dominant layouts

Well, I have a little story. Here in Poland, yes, we technically have both QWERTY and QWERTZ layouts. The QWERTZ one is even officially endorsed as the national standard, but in reality it is nearly obsolete - it is used virtually exclusively on typewriters, and rumored to be adequate for professional typists (or at least when Apple introduced a Polish QWERTZ variant of their keyboard, that's the target audience they cited - article in Polish). I've never seen a computer with a Polish QWERTZ keyboard here, nor anyone who would willingly choose that layout in software. Some people even are aware of its existence only because of the default Windows install having both layouts configured, and people complaining about the characters "mysteriously" swapping after having accidentally pressed Ctrl+Shift.

So, my point is - shouldn't the stripes on "mixed" countries be adjusted to clearly state which layout is the dominant one? Ie., have the solid fill for the dominant layout and thin stripes for the alternate one? I don't really know for sure about other countries marked as such, but I guess in most cases there is also a clearly dominant layout an a niche one. --149.156.124.14 (talk) 12:19, 13 January 2012 (UTC)

Poland should be marked as QWERTY only

It's not exactly true. QWERTZ keyboards are not common but available in Poland. I still have a Polish ps2 keyboard with QWERTZ layout made by dell somewhere in my cellar. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 89.78.244.171 (talk) 23:03, 2 March 2014 (UTC)

I've never seen in Poland other keyboard than QWERTY. Definitely, Poland should be marked as QWERTY-only country. No one uses typing machines nowdays - they had QWERTZ layout probably. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 194.63.133.126 (talk) 09:28, 12 March 2012 (UTC)

Romania should be marked as QWERTY only

I've never seen in Romania other keyboard than QWERTY, either. Definitely, Romania should be marked as QWERTY-only country. There was a case 25 years ago when second hand computers from Germany were imported in some regions of Romania, but this is not the case anymore. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 158.169.9.14 (talk) 15:09, 15 November 2013 (UTC)

This map is not named "Keyboard layouts of modern computers as of 2013". Romania as well as all Eastern Europe have had typewriters and their first computers with QWERTZ quite until recently.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 06:14, 16 November 2013 (UTC)

Latvia should be marked as QWERTY only

"ŪGJRMV" layout is an experimental layout created by researcher (article in Latvian) and is not used by anyone in real life. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 212.4.138.50 (talk) 13:44, 27 September 2013 (UTC)

Listen, all you people (and for above also). It is a overview map, it shows all probable layouts. It does not matter if you, your friend, or your granny use it. If some source says that this exists or existed it should be marked on the map.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 18:40, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Switzerland should be marked as QWERTZ only

Please, I've reverted it once but it has been wrongly 'corrected' again: Switzerland has no AZERTY keyboard, even in the French speaking area. Instead, the whole country use two QWERTZ keyboards with very minor differences (öüä and éèà with SHIFT for Swiss German keyboard, éèà and öüä with SHIFT for Swiss French keyboard). — Preceding unsigned comment added by Spyhawk (talk • contribs) 17:16, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

Do you really think that no one person can set in his computer to AZERTY? Or AZERTY is banned in Switzerland? It's a French layout then a French-speaker can probably type with it. You cannot say for sure that no-one can't or don't type with it.--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 18:35, 9 November 2013 (UTC)

You won't find any AZERTY keyboard in Switzerland, and no Swiss French person would be able to type with such keyboard. The reason is that we have our own "Swiss-French" and "Swiss-German" keyboards (two very similar QWERTZ keyboards) so people that work in other language area of the country (which is common) can type easily with both. --Spyhawk (talk) 10:20, 11 November 2013 (UTC)

Любослов Езыкин : definitely anyone can set any keyboard layout and if a guy want to set up a french layout, he's free to do it, but you will never ever find an AZERTY keyboard in stores. What writes Spyhawk is really true and you should not hashe the Suisse Romande part with both using AZERTY and QWERTZ. Definitely it is only QWERTZ. --Abaddon1337 (talk) 08:30, 21 January 2014 (UTC)

As it is a map of keyboard layouts by country and not a map of usable keyboard by language, Switzerland should be marked as QWERTZ only. Marc Mongenet (talk) 07:53, 14 August 2014 (UTC)

Hungary should be marked as QWERTZ only

I see Hungary was marked Qwertz only, when someone changed it to mixed with the comments see discussion. I don't see any relevant info in the talk page about Hungary here, so I have no idea what was the reason behind changing it. Hungary is esentially a QWERTZ only country. 176.241.50.166 (talk) 10:37, 24 January 2016 (UTC)

Windows lists "Hungartian 101-key", so Microsoft must have a good reason to include it, and we cannot just ignore this fact. It seems hard for many people here to undertand what this map shows. They look at the map, then at their physical keyboard in front of them and say "Hey, I do not use QWERTY/QWERTZ and I've never seen it in my country. The map is wrong!". No, the map is right, because it does not show what you prefer or what even the majority prefers, but what keyboard layouts of typweritere, teletypes, computers or whatever have been in the country, in the past as well as in the present, or what some important software (like Windows) offers. I do not see the problem with showing two variants, why are people so stubborn and hate alternatives?--Lüboslóv Yęzýkin (talk) 20:12, 26 January 2016 (UTC)

QWERTY in Belgium?

What's the source for QWERTY in Belgium? In my experience, it's rarely used there. -- StevenDH (talk) 13:42, 23 November 2016 (UTC)