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This media file has been nominated for deletion since 4 October 2024.

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Reason for the nomination:

All four of these files are sourced to a National Weather Service website (Galveston regional office).

Such sites host a mixture of content created by the US federal government (public domain) and content created by businesses and private individuals (a wide variety of free and unfree licenses). We rely on the captions they were published with to tell us where photos originated. In particular, storm damage photos such as these often come from County Emergency Management Agencies, County Sheriffs, other state- or county-level agencies, and even from private citizens. Even more particularly, aerial damage photos are very often (even usually) not the work of the NWS but of those other agencies or the Civil Air Patrol.

Unfortunately, all these images are no longer hosted on the NWS website where they originated, and the citation we have for each of them points directly to the image itself instead of the page it was found on. Therefore, although we can verify that the file exists in the Internet Archive, we no longer have access to its copyright and licensing information.

Because such photos routinely originate outside the NWS, I reached out the to NWS office that published them to ask about their origin. They told me that they do not know who took these:

"There is probably no way we can identify each image you have mentioned. We did lose a lot of pictures/photos off our web page many years ago that we were not able to retrieve or recover.

I have forwarded this advice to the VRT (ticket:2024100410012611)

Because we cannot verify that any of these images are (or were ever) ever available under a free license, we must delete as a precaution unless the precise creator and evidence of permission can be found. If they are truly orphan images, they will enter the public domain 120 years after they were taken: 2122 for the Tropical Storm Allison photo; 2124 for the Hurricane Claudette images.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

--Rlandmann (talk) 23:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)

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All four of these files are sourced to a National Weather Service website (Galveston regional office).

Such sites host a mixture of content created by the US federal government (public domain) and content created by businesses and private individuals (a wide variety of free and unfree licenses). We rely on the captions they were published with to tell us where photos originated. In particular, storm damage photos such as these often come from County Emergency Management Agencies, County Sheriffs, other state- or county-level agencies, and even from private citizens. Even more particularly, aerial damage photos are very often (even usually) not the work of the NWS but of those other agencies or the Civil Air Patrol.

Unfortunately, all these images are no longer hosted on the NWS website where they originated, and the citation we have for each of them points directly to the image itself instead of the page it was found on. Therefore, although we can verify that the file exists in the Internet Archive, we no longer have access to its copyright and licensing information.

Because such photos routinely originate outside the NWS, I reached out the to NWS office that published them to ask about their origin. They told me that they do not know who took these:

"There is probably no way we can identify each image you have mentioned. We did lose a lot of pictures/photos off our web page many years ago that we were not able to retrieve or recover.

I have forwarded this advice to the VRT (ticket:2024100410012611)

Because we cannot verify that any of these images are (or were ever) ever available under a free license, we must delete as a precaution unless the precise creator and evidence of permission can be found. If they are truly orphan images, they will enter the public domain 120 years after they were taken: 2122 for the Tropical Storm Allison photo; 2124 for the Hurricane Claudette images.

Closing admins should familiarise themselves with the evidence and discussions at this RfC when closing this request.

--Rlandmann (talk) 23:21, 4 October 2024 (UTC)}} ~~~~

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DescriptionTS Allison Texas flooding.jpg	Flooding of a below-grade section of US59 Texas from Tropical Storm Allison.
Date	June 2001
Source	http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/projects/allison01/damagepictures/hazard59_4.jpg
Author	Houston/Galveston National Weather Service

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File history

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	Date/Time	Thumbnail	Dimensions	User	Comment
current	02:52, 10 June 2006		640 × 480 (49 KB)	Hurricanehink	{{Information \|Description=Flooding in Texas from Tropical Storm Allison \|Source=http://www.srh.noaa.gov/hgx/projects/allison01/damagepictures/hazard59_4.jpg \|Date=2006-06-09 \|Author=Houston/Galveston National Weather Service \|Permission={{PD-USGov-NOAA}}

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Usage on cs.wikipedia.org
- Tropická bouře Allison (2001)
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- Tormenta tropical Allison (2001)
Usage on pt.wikipedia.org
- Tempestade tropical Allison (2001)
Usage on sk.wikipedia.org
- Houston
Usage on zh.wikipedia.org
- 热带风暴阿利森

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