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File:Picher Funnel Cloud.jpg: Photographer messaged September 20; no response. VRT ticket:2024102910011996

Both these images were taken in the US after 1989, and therefore automatically protected by copyright at the instant of their creation unless ineligible for some reason. Unless anybody can provide any evidence of ineligibility for copyright, or permission from the respective copyright owners, we must delete both the files listed in this request per COM:PRP because as far as we can tell, they both are protected by copyright. --Rlandmann (talk) 22:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)

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These images were both sourced from webpages of the US National Weather Service but are the work of third-party photographers. However, we have no evidence that either of these images are in the public domain or available under a free license.

For many years, hosting such images on the Commons was done in good faith under the rationale that:

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An extensive review of this rationale in 2024 revealed that neither of these beliefs held up to scrutiny. These findings were confirmed in an RfC conducted from August to October 2024.

Per COM:ONUS it is the responsibility of the person uploading an image to the Commons or anyone arguing for its retention here to provide evidence of permission from the copyright holder. For anyone interested in seeking the permission of the creators to retain these files, I offer, as a head start, the following notes left over from when I investigated them:

File:Picher Funnel Cloud.jpg: Photographer messaged September 20; no response. VRT ticket:2024102910011996

Both these images were taken in the US after 1989, and therefore automatically protected by copyright at the instant of their creation unless ineligible for some reason. Unless anybody can provide any evidence of ineligibility for copyright, or permission from the respective copyright owners, we must delete both the files listed in this request per COM:PRP because as far as we can tell, they both are protected by copyright. --Rlandmann (talk) 22:20, 29 October 2024 (UTC)}} ~~~~

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DescriptionPicher Funnel Cloud.jpg	English: View of the funnel cloud that would eventually become the Picher-Racine Tornado that killed 20 people across Oklahoma and Missouri on May 10, 2008. The tornado would later touch down just south of the Kansas-Oklahoma state line northwest of Miami, Oklahoma. Photo authored by NWS Wichita, Kansas. Source: http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/scripts/viewstory.php?STORY_NUMBER=2008051102 ; dead link, archived at https://web.archive.org/web/20080622032456/http://www.crh.noaa.gov/ict/scripts/viewstory.php?STORY_NUMBER=2008051102 -- photo not attributed in this source Photo currently hosted at https://www.weather.gov/ict/event_20080510 with attribution
Date	13 May 2008 (original upload date)
Source	Transferred from en.wikipedia by SreeBot
Author	Pascal Van Schijndel

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Upload date | User | Bytes | Dimensions | Comment

2008-05-13 18:49 (UTC) | JForget | 31367 (bytes) | 638×480 | View of the funnel cloud that would eventually become the Picher-Racine Tornado that killed 20 people across Oklahoma and Missouri on May 10, 2008. The tornado would touched down just south of the Kansas-Oklahoma state line northwest of Miami, Oklahoma. C

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	Date/Time	Thumbnail	Dimensions	User	Comment
current	18:01, 17 September 2011		638 × 480 (31 KB)	SreeBot	(Original text) : View of the funnel cloud that would eventually become the Picher-Racine Tornado that killed 20 people across Oklahoma and Missouri on May 10, 2008. The tornado would touched down just south of the Kansas-Oklahoma state line northwest of

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Tornado outbreak sequence of May 7–11, 2008

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File:Picher Funnel Cloud.jpg

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funnel cloud

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public domain

inception

13 May 2008

exposure time

0.00333333333333333333 second

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9

focal length

19.2 millimetre

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200

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