Talk:Infant Annihilator

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Creation of Infant Annihilator

I believe that the topic Infant Annihilator has become notable enough per Wikipedia:Notability (music)#Criteria for musicians and ensembles numbers 1 and 2. I have created a near-complete draft of the page here and have submitted it for review. If possible, I'd like an admin to review it sooner than the 8 weeks stated on the submission template. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 04:21, 19 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

In favor

After some brief investigation, I agree that this band meets the required notability. In particular, Infant Annihilator's The Elysian Grandeval Galeriarch reached #22 on Billboard's "Top Rock Albums" during the week of August 20, 2016.^[1]^[2]

TheLoneDeranger (talk) 20:07, 21 April 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Comment: Previous attempts at creating this page were rejected due to a lack of notability. The band has since charted on several charts for their second album and gained a lot of attention/notoriety in the metal and deathcore communities, making them notable per WP:NMUSIC/WP:BAND. Also, if this page is accepted—due to the nature of its content—it might be a target for vandalism, and a good candidate for semi-protection. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 17:49, 7 May 2018 (UTC)

Comment: Per WP:NMUSIC, a band is notable if it Has had a single or album on any country's national music chart. Their second album charted so it seems notable to me. However, I do understand the concern and annoyance of editors who have had to create-protect the article. Bkissin (talk) 21:06, 20 April 2018 (UTC)

References

^ "Infant Annihilator". Billboard.
^ "Rock Albums". Billboard.

Lead portion (English/American? Or just "English")?

Initially the article lead described the band as just "English", but I have changed it to "English/American" (which is what it is currently). I'd like to dip into other's thoughts about this though. While the two musicians who started the band are English, the band has always had a American vocalist so I thought it was appropriate to introduce them as such. However, the band did start before they had a vocalist. It's all just so confusing. I'm welcome to change it according to anyone else's thoughts, or if you think it's fine how it is I'll leave it be. Second Skin (talk) 08:43, 6 June 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hello! I think that how it is is how it is, and how it was isn't how it is. For example, Metallica is no longer Hetfield Hammett Newstead and Ulrich. IA is no longer just English; IA is English/American (or whatever nomenclature is preferred, e.g. British/American or w/e)

There are my two cents on the issue! Happy editing... TheLoneDeranger (talk) 05:49, 26 August 2018 (UTC)[reply]

Hiya! I like your addition and agree with how it currently is written ("English/American"). They do currently have both English and American members, so it makes sense to introduce them as English/American. Like TheLoneDeranger said, bands change over time and you have to update the wiki info accordingly. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 14:31, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

"Band name" section necessary?

Is it really necessary to have an entire section for what is just two sentences explaining their band name? My vote would be to move it into the History section alongside the other info that talks about their origins. Asking here for others' opinions. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 14:38, 22 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

it's fine where it is, I always personally prefer those articles that explains a band name somewhere in a auxiliary section instead of just lumping it into the history myself Second Skin (talk) 03:47, 23 February 2019 (UTC)[reply]

New genre

How would the community feel about adding the genre “parody music” to the infobox? A good deal of what IA is about relates to the parodic and satirical aspect of their music. They’re essentially a parody of a deathcore band, and the members have even said so themselves regarding the band name, the exaggerated lyrics, and how over-the-top the instruments are. Though I am aware that the members’ opinions do not bear much weight on facts, the fact remains that defining a work as parodic is subjective in the way that it is determined by an artist creating a work whether or not it is one of parody or sincerity, and in this case the members seem to consider it at least partially parody. Even the music videos are a straight-up mockery of the overly-masculine, heteronormative videos that other metal bands release. Everything about this band screams parody.
I think “comedy metal” would be an inappropriate genre, because while they are comedic, their lyrics are satirical and speak on a moral subject: mocking/ridiculing the very serious subject of sexual abuse in the Catholic Church (which is indeed more of a moral/ideological point than a comedic one). “Parody music” is different in that it includes all satire and parody, and not just comedy. — Tha†emoover†here (talk) 03:47, 25 May 2019 (UTC)[reply]

[1] "Infant Annihilator". Billboard.

[2] "Rock Albums". Billboard.

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